QUIBBLETOWN BITCHES

Part 7

by Joseph B. Gentzel

Quibbletown April Sunshine

and her daughter

Champion Quibbletown Lee of Ralfrans


Quibbletown April Sunshine

Quibbletown April Sunshine was whelped April 1, 1957. She is a daughter of Quibbletown Bouncing Bett we covered in Part 2, sired by Quibbletown Sunburst. I have included a three generation pedigree.

Champion Cote de Neige Palot

Quibbletown Sunburst

Champion Cote de Neige Paonne

Quibbletown April Sunshine

Champion Cote de Neige Nivereau

Quibbletown Bouncing Bett

Cote de Neige Actrice

Primary gene contributor ancestors are:

Champion Ibos du Val d'Aure 19.34%
Champion Lawrence of Combermere 18.75%
Champion Cote de Neige Ariette 18.75%
Champion Estat d'Argeles 15.82%
Champion Cote de Neige Ariel 15.63%

Quibbletown April Sunshine was bred to Champion Quibbletown Hasty Pudding, Champion Quibbletown Small Fry, and Champion Lorvaso de la Colina. From the breeding to Champion Quibbletown Hasty Pudding the get was Champion Quibbletown Henri of Navarre, CD.

Henri was the pet and favorite of Abigale Smith. She tells the story of Henri as follows. Henri was sold to a home that experienced a fire and could not keep him. Seaver brought him back to Quibbletown where he quickly adopted Abigale and vice versa. She describes him as a large marked dog with a very special personality. He was her all time favorite, to this day. He is the Grandfather, through Quibbletown Samantha, of Quibbletown French Doll we reviewed last installment. Also through Samantha we see Champion Quibbletown Applejack who produced Quibbletown Crystal Del Rey one of the foundation bitches for Jerry and Carolyn Ferguson of Dastedke. Applejack also gives us Quibbletown Happiness Is, the Grandmother of Champion Kobil's Louis Pasteure, who was Best of Breed at the 1984 National Specialty of the Great Pyrenees Club of America. Through Quibbletown Moonshadow, a Henri daughter, we get Quibbletown Billy Deaux and Champion Quibbletown Oliver Twist. Quibbletown Billy Deaux was one of the later great studs at Quibbletown. Champion Quibbletown Oliver Twist was used at Elysee and is the sire of Champion Elysee Raquette Ruff. Another Henri daughter, Quibbletown Bon Suzette, gave us Nyoka de la Colina who was the foundation bitch at Dar-Jan. So you can see that not only was Henri a much beloved pet, but one of the important dogs in the history of the breed. Champion Quibbletown Henri Navarre, CD is quite important to the Quibbletown story.

Quibbletown April Sunshine was bred to Champion Lorvaso de la Colina with resultant get whelped 8/25/57. My records show three get:
1. Champion Quibbletown Impresario (Impy)
2. Champion Quibbletown Ravel
3. Champion Quibbletown Theme Song

Refer to Part 4 for extensive information about Impy. Champion Quibbletown Impresario is one of the great studs dogs of breed history and a great show.

Champion Quibbletown Theme Song went to Beau-Kay where he was bred to Beau-Kay Cathy Chmone (Champion Cote de Neige Berceuse X Quibbletown Chloe of Beau-Kay). This breeding produced a bitch, Champion Beau-Kay Toora Loora, whose descendants through Champion Pyr- Layne's Beau de Chesky go down to Starlaxy dogs such as Champion Starlaxy Christmas Jupiter, American & Canadian Starlaxy Gauguin Perfection, Champion Starlaxy Benjamin Indus, and Champion Starlaxy Wyndsong Waterloo. The breeding also produced a bitch named To-Ra who through a dog named Michael Snow Van Derck produced dogs such as Basquay's Yogi Bear and his son Basquay's Teddy Bear. The descendants of these dogs also contributed to Almac and Winterwood through such dogs as Champion Almac Mountain Mist, C.D. From another bitch out of this breeding, Gentle Beau-Kay, we see a few generations later through a bitch, Quibbletown Antares, such dogs as American & Canadian Pyr-Haven Buttercup (Pyr-Haven Kennels from California), American & Canadian Champion Pyr-Haven High Drift, and Champion Kaskadian Shaniko, C.D. Also from To- Ra through a dog, Poil de Galee Cher-Beau, we see descendants such Maranatha Penn Star, and Champion Jonricker Mr. Magoo.

Quibbletown April Sunshine's Sire Champion Quibbletown Small Fry is a full sibling to Champion Quibbletown Easter Token, and a littermate to Quibbletown Chloe of Beau Kay, and Quibbletown Titian Beauty that we covered in part 3.

Champion Quibbletown Lee of Ralfrans

The breeding of Quibbletown April Sunshine to Champion Quibbletown Small Fry produced a bitch who went to the west coast, Champion Quibbletown Lee of Ralfrans. Champion Quibbletown Lee of Ralfrans, whelped November 27, 1960, is very important to the present day lines on the west coast and subsequently, due to the overall quality of these descendants, to the rest of us. Generally she was bred to descendants of a son (Basquaerie Pal O'Mine) and a grandson (Champion Basquaerie Monte Cristo) of La Shan Don Caprice, Champion Sunset Knoll Basquaerie Beau and to a son of Champion Lorvaso de la Colina, Champion Quibbletown Windsor. All of these dogs seem to go directly back to Basquaerie Anemone.

 

				Basquaerie Anemone--------------
				/		\		|
	     La Shan Don Caprice    La Shan Marc of Basquaerie 	|
		/	\					|
Basquaerie Pal O'Mine	Basquaerie Sans Souci II	Basquaerie Juliana
				/				|
	   Basquaerie Monte Cristo		     Sunset Knoll Basquaerie Beau

 

				Basquaerie Anemone
					|
			Champion La Shan White Belle
					|
			Champion Cote de Neige Guerrier
			      (Ediths first dog)
					|
			Champion Quibbletown Windsor
			  (six generations removed)

Basically you are looking at the foundation stock of the west coast lines that have survived and are ancestors to today's dogs. Would it surprise you if Lorvaso de la Colina is a Great Great Grandson of Basquaerie Anemone?

Basquaerie Anemone

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Champion La Shan Marc of Basquaerie

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Vano de la Colina

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Vanoso de la Colina

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Champion Lorvaso de la Colina

 

The two primary gene contributors of Basquaerie Anemone are Barbat de Soum (18.75%) and Sultan de Soum (12.50%).

A three generation pedigree of Champion Quibbletown Lee of Ralfrans follows.

Champion Cote de Neige Guerrier

Champion Quibbletown Small Fry

Champion Cote de Neige Ariette II

Champion Quibbletown Lee of Ralfrans

Quibbletown Sunburst

Quibbletown April Sunshine

Quibbletown Bouncing Bett

You can see this is before, or more correctly, concurrent with Champion Lorvaso de la Colina's arrival at Quibbletown. Refer to the first part reviewed above and note that Quibbletown April Sunshine's breeding to Champion Lorvaso de la Colina contributed to the major influence that Lorvaso had on the Quibbletown line. Through Champion Quibbletown Lee of Ralfrans we get a glimpse via the progeny what was already there prior to Lorvaso adding his magic. Primary gene contributors to Quibbletown Lee of Ralfrans are Cote de Neige Actrice-25%, Cote de Neige Nivereau-25%, Ibos du Val d'Aure-17.5%. Cote de Neige Roncevaux-17.2%, Cote de Neige Ariette-15.6%, Lawrence of Combermere-15.6%.

Lets take a closer look at Champion Quibbletown Lee of Ralfrans influence on the West Coast breeding. Champion Quibbletown Lee of Ralfrans was first bred to Champion Quibbletown Windsor, who is by Champion Lorvaso de la Colina, out of Quibbletown Titian Beauty. The resultant get, whelped 7/8/62, included Champion Count Athos of Ralfran's, C.D., Jacqueline of Ralfrans, Lady Zsa Zsa of Ralfrans, and Suzanne of Ralfrans. Briefly these resultant get contributed to west coast lines as follows:


		Champion Count Athos of Ralfrans
			/			\
		DeFers/C & L			Soloman
						  |
						Vala
						/   \
					   Soleil    Ripples

 

				Jacqueline of Ralfrans
					/        \
				Hai-Lee		Tuam

 

				Susanne of Ralfrans
					|
				    Coldcreek
				    /        \
			Ventisquero	      Kaskadian
			/        \
		Catalin		Mistry

 

			Lady Zsa Zsa of Ralfrans
				     |
				Pyr Oaks
				/       \
			Pompier--------Euzkotar______________________
			/   \         /       \          |           |
	Working Stock	    Kaskadian	  Montalvo	Shadee Hill  Lazy Acres 
			    /       \				    
			Marwell	    Caspyr

Please understand that the above does not imply that a particular kennel's breeding lines subsequently dominated the one that is indicated below it as receiving the progeny. It simply shows how the gene pool of the top dog flowed to each kennel. Keep in mind that there is always another gene pool that goes with each breeding. So it is not as pure as the above flow chart might seem to suggest. A good example of this is I know that Marwell, one of the oldest existing breeding lines in the country, has gone out of their original lines very seldom. The addition of breeding from Kaskadian which happened to flow from Lady Zsa Zsa of Ralfrans does not imply that kennel would continue to exhibit dominant influence from that line. It would take much more breeding in the future with offspring from that line for that to happen. The breeders out west, especially in the Northwest cooperate with each other to a remarkable degree. They seem to admire and support each others breeding. They are also a talented group with a proper eye and perspective on the breed. The resultant get they enjoy is testament to this mutual cooperation.

I do know that a daughter of Lady Zsa Zsa of Ralfrans, Champion Pyr Oaks Lady Eva (Impy) was one of the foundation bitches at Euzkotar. Lady Eva and a granddaughter of Champion Lee of Ralfrans, Vascones Agerketa Euzkotar seem to have been the foundation from which Linda Weisser built her lines. Throw in a dog, Champion Karolaska Kaskabar Euzkotar and his son, Euzkotar Pompier Koshare plus a little later Champion Quibbletown TG of Basquaerie, you have the makings on one of the top contemporary breeding lines in North America. What we see appears to be intensifying the genes by breeding the son, Euzkotar Pompier Koshare to his mother, Pyr Oaks Lady Eva and his Aunt, Vascones Agerketa Euzkotar. Karolaska Kaskabar Euzkotar was 75% Quibbletown genes. The other 25% from the famous Balibasque Beau of Karolaska, C.D. When Champion Quibbletown TG of Basquaerie is added into the mix the results are clearly that Quibbletown linked with the very good old California lines that were from Basquaerie dogs, sent west back in the 1940's, 1950's, and 1960's.

I quote from an Email from Linda Weisser, proprietor of Euzkotar in Washington and Catherine de la Cruz of Pompier. Linda writes as follows.

"I think that one key to whatever we got was the success of the 60s [1960's] CA [California] cross of Rhopyr which was old Basquaerie with the Quibbletown via Windsor [Champion Quibbletown Windsor] x Lee [Champion Quibbletown Lee of Ralfrans] breeding. This was done in several different ways and produced a lot of wonderful offspring, but the only ones that remain in pedigrees are those that show up in my breedings and Catherines [Catherine de la Cruz of Pompier]."(1) All the information in [brackets] is added by me for clarity of information. Catherine de la Cruz of Pompier in Northern California writes:.
"Lee [Champion Quibbletown Lee of Ralfrans] and Buddy (Q. Windsor's call name) produced three significant offspring-Lady Zsa Zsa of Ralfrans ("Puff"), Jacqueline of Ralfrans ("Jackie") and Ch. Count Athos of Ralfrans ("Samson"). Buddy left no breedable offspring by any other bitch and he died young. Lee and her daughter Jackie were bred to Hendaye Euskalrho Laustan-"Andy"- as was a daughter of Samson, Delilah of Solomon. Andy and those three bitches produced 16 Champion offspring and set the "California look" with the Tonvaun and early DeFer bitches. Ch. Tonvaun's Charlotte of Tuam, owned by Bill Maroney, retired the best of Opposite Sex perpetual trophy (the "Triksy trophy") by winning it three times at the GPCC Specialty, the last time when she was 11 years old. An unfinished Andy x Lee daughter, Fanchette of Tonvaun, was bred to an Andy x Lee grandson ( Ch. Barranca's Amigo Tranquilo, sired by Ch. Gunnar Segundo de Barranca) and produced Vascones Agerketa Euzkotar ("Skana") and Vascones Bisque de Pompier ("Biscuit").

Lady Zsa Zsa of Ralfrans was bred to Ch. Los Pyrtos Armand of Pyr Oaks, CD. From that breeding came the great Ch. Pyr Oaks Lady Eva ("Impy"), my foundation dog Ch. Pyr Oaks Sir Winston ("Stony"), and Linda's [Linda Weisser of Euzkotar] Ch Pyr Oaks Ourse de Neige ("Drifty") who died without leaving offspring. In 1974, Linda and I purchased their seven-yr old unshown sister, Osa Blanca d'Amapro, and bred her to an Impy son, Ch. Pompier Euzkotar Born To Win. Most of the present working stock produced by Pompier Working Pyrenees comes from that breeding.

With Impy and Skana in Washington, Stoney, Biscuit and Osa in California, both Euzkotar and Pompier produced show and Working dogs from the same litter-with more than one Champion also working for a living. That is a topic in itself"(2)

Many thanks to both Linda Weisser of Euzkotar and Catherine de la Cruz of Pompier for their information and some lively E-Mail discussion. Again the information in [brackets] is added by me for clarity purposes. The only information that needs adding is that as I indicated above in the flow diagrams, Susanne of Ralfrans added some important dogs that we presently see out west. Also, one the 16 champions Catherine notes above, descended from "Andy", that "set the California look" was out of Quibbletown Zann of Ralfrans. There was one Champion offspring, Champion Tonvaun's Zanette de Barranca. Quibbletown Zann of Ralfrans is out of Beau-Kay Heidi by Champion Quibbletown Impresario we referenced in Part V of this series.

I have listed the 16 Champion offspring of Hendaye Euskalrho Laustan that Catherine refers:

Deliah of Soloman, (daughter of Ch. Count Athos of Ralfrans, C.D.)

Ch. Blanche Neige DeFer
Ch. Chanson du Montagne DeFer
Ch DeFer Ourson
Ch. DeFer's Mado
Ch. DeFer's T Tinker Tonk
Ch. DeFer Brita Lisa

Jacqueline of Ralfrans

Ch. Gunnar of Hai-Lee
Ch. La Fiesta Hermosa of Hai-Lee
Ch. Collette of Hai-Lee
Ch. Camille Boulou de Hai-Lee
Ch. King of Hai-Lee
Ch. Sherri

Champion Quibbletown Lee of Ralfrans

Ch. Gunnar Segundo de Barranca
Ch. Tonvaun's Charlotte of Tuam
Ch. Prince Nemo of Tonvaun

Quibbletown Zann of Ralfrans

Ch. Tonvaun's Zanette de Barranca

I show 8 other offspring that are in pedigrees that were not champions. Twenty four get in California certainly would influence the resultant breeding lines back in the period of 1963 through 1967.
It is no coincidence that Quibbletown lines are seen as integral parts of these very important, contemporary and successful breeding programs. The breeders maybe were not aware of the degree of Quibbletown influence. I suspect this is an example of "the good" being recognized and used by gifted breeders. We are not surprised at this point that Quibbletown unfailingly proves itself in a properly planned and executed breeding program. No doubt that when you combine the best of Quibbletown with the best of Basquaerie lines, good might result, especially when much of the good stock came from the same place originally i.e. Champion Ibos du Val d'Aure, his two sons(Basquaerie Houx de Noel & Basquaerie Gui de Noel), and his grandfather Estat d'Argeles. This is certainly a gross oversimplification, but genetically correct in its illustration. These west coast breeders incorporated the resultant genius of Edith and Seaver Smith breeding work of some 40 years. It is no coincidence that when you check the gene contributors of Champion Quibbletown TG of Basquaerie, who almost everyone involved in his story attributes to him as one of the dominant influences on their contemporary breeding lines, you get the following.
Lorvaso de la Colina 18.75%
Ibos du Val d'Aure 17.6%
Basquaerie Gui de Noel 13.72%
Estat d'Argeles 12.53%
Lawrence of Combermere 11.8%

Sounds like a who's who of breed history. With the exception of Champion Basquaerie Gui de Noel, these are the dogs that significantly influenced the formation of the Quibbletown line. Quibbletown was more influenced by the litter mate of Champion Basquaerie Gui de Noel, Champion Basquaerie Houx de Noel. This is the reason that their Sire, Champion Ibos du Val d'Aure has such a high percentage of gene influence above.

Betty Wade Warmack at Caspry, originally from California, but now in Washington, owned one of the most important stud dogs in breed history, Champion Quibbletown TG of Basquaerie. TG has had a remarkable influence on the breed. He is certainly a dog of dramatic destiny. He sprang upon the national scene when Monsieur Guy Mansencal, the first French breed authority ever to judge in North America picked TG and his daughter, American & Canadian Champion Euskari's Kaskadian Everstar, Best of Opposite Sex and Best of Breed. respectively, at the 1980 Great Pyrenees Club of America National Specialty. TG could not have been in better hands than Betty Warmack who used and shared TG and his get very wisely. The breed has a debt of gratitude to her.

Champion Quibbletown TG of Basquaerie(on left)
with two of his offspring, left to Right
Champion Euzkotar One For the Money & Am/Can Ch. Euskari's Kaskadian Everstar

Lets look at the merging of these two influences, that in themselves were influenced in a major way by the Quibbletown gene colony

American & Tri-International Champion Estat d'Argeles

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Champion Ibos de Val d'Aure

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Champion Basquaerie Gui de la Noel

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Champion Lawrence of Combermere

			    /                    \	Basquaerie Descendant Lines
Champion Lorvaso de la Colina	   Quibbletown Lee of Ralfrans           /
		|				 \		       /
Champion Quibbletown TG of Basquaerie		 Ch. Pyr Oaks Lady Eva
			\			/
			Some Contemporary West Coast Lines
(Caspyr,Kaskadian,Euzkotar,Shadee Hill,Catalin,Pompier,Montalvo,Waskyuwin,Others)

Please note that there are many good breeders presently active on the West Coast that do not go back to the above dogs. This is not intended to be an all inclusive outline, nor could it ever be. There are many breeders doing wonderful work that do not go back to the TG/Lady Eva scenario. One that immediately pops to mind is Bousy Rouge. I know that Seaver would agree with the statement that the Roger and Gail Tuepker of Bousy Rouge are presently doing as good a job breeding as anyone else in North America.

Bibliography:

1. Email dated 96-07-06, Subj: Dogs, Pedigrees, bloodlines, etc., From: lmweisser@msn.com (Linda Weisser), To: jgentzel@aol.com (Joe Gentzel)

2. Email dated 96-07-06, Subj: Re: Descendants of Ch. Quibbletown Lee of Ralfrans, From: Cdlc Pyrs@aol.com(Catherine de la Cruz), To: jgentzel@aol.com(Joe Gentzel).